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Is the foal a Grullo or a Dun? Jay's babies will always be one or the other. Grullos are often mistaken as Duns when they are first born. Some can even be born red dun looking and change to Grullo within a year. Generally, Grullo foals are born a light tan color with a dorsal stripe. One way I've been told to tell the difference is to look at the hair color around the eyes. Grullos will have black hairs and Duns will have gold, orange or brown hairs around their eyes. Only updated pictures of these foals will tell the truth.

Below are possible resulting foals when bred to Jay.

Black & Grullo mares

- 100% Grullo foals 

Bay/Sorrel/Buckskin/Palomino/Dun mares

- 50% Grullo foals - 50% Dun foals

Cremello/Perlino mares

- 50% Grullo foals - 50% Dunskin foals


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Our first foal for 2009 has arrived.  "JAZZY BLUE JAY" is a grulla filly out of a black mare.


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Jay's first colt of 2009 is a solid Grullo out of a Sorrel & WhiteTobiano mare. 

Top picture is days old.  Bottom picture is a couple months later.


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This is "Sailor", a grullo colt out of our mare "Bonnie". Check out his full sister "Luna" on the 08 foal page. 

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We think this filly will be a Dun with a lot of Dun factor.  She has a baby doll head (as most of Jay's foals do) and beautiful brown doe eyes.  Her Dam is a stocky Zan Parr Bar Chestnut Mare. 

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This fun guy is a grullo colt out of a Black mare.

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"YES" another COLT out of a Sorrel/White Tobiano mare.  He is a beautifully marked Dun Paint.  Just love him!!!

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This cutie is a Dunskin filly (Buckskin w/ a Dun stripe) out of a Zan Parr Bar/Two Eyed Jack Palomino Mare. 

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Another Grullo COLT out of a Grulla mare. The large white star is a surprise.  The mare and Jay have NO white on their face.  Jay has no white anywhere and the mare just has a small white sock.  ??

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Above is "Crystal" a grullo filly out of a Black Mare at 1 week old.  Below is Crystal at 1 year old.  Note the difference in color. 

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